The second interview I did on Tiritiri Matangi Island! This time with Jonathan, one of the Guides that you may come across if you visit the island. Unfortunately a bit of a shorter episode today, seeing that I had a ferry to catch! I organised this recording extremely last minute so had to squeeze it in at the end of my stay... I will have to return for a longer conversation in the future some time.

Visit Tiritiri Matangi Island here: https://www.tiritirimatangi.org.nz

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